Seriously. I know what you mean. I can't eat some innocent animal thats been sadly butchered, on my plate. It's just not right. I totally agree with you on this post.

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Thank you.
It's sickening. I don't understand it. It horrifies me. This video made me sick to my stomach to watch. And the worst part of it? Most people will watch this video and say "oh that's so sad" but keep eating meat anyway.

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I have somethings to say and I am probably going to piss you off.

How dare you. If you want to be vegetarian, fine. If you want to put this video in your journal, fine. If you want to make those first three statements, then that's fine too.
However, what is not fine is saying "You people SICKEN ME." I feel offended and insulted after reading this, especially since we consider each other to be friends. Just because I choose to eat meat, I sicken you. If you think it is wrong and disgusting that's one thing, you're allowed to have your opinion. But once you start saying boldly "You people SICKEN ME" then I have a problem. "Friends" don't sicken you.

Sorry, but the video isn't convincing enough for me. I am still going to eat meat. If I "sicken" you because I eat meat, too bad. You have every right to believe what you want to but never put me down for what I believe, no matter how right or wrong it may be. You do not have that right.

If I pissed you off too badly and you feel the need to remove me, the choice is yours. However I would not have been so frank if I didn't consider to be my friend. Because I was hurt by this.

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First and foremost, I am changing the entry to read "your ACTIONS sicken me," which is what it should have said in the first place. I blame it on an uncharacteristic burst of emotion. So FUCK ME.
Second of all, I am sorry if I hurt you, but I am NOT sorry for writing this. Watching this video made me PHYSICALLY SICK which is something that NEVER happens. This is something I feel EXTREMELY passionately about, and I'm not going to edit myself on my own fucking journal. Which is something that I thought YOU would understand. I'm going to say whatever I damn well please, and if I insult you then I'm sorry, but I'm not going to change. If you have a problem with me or my beliefs then you can be the one to remove me. I wouldn't remove my twin over something as stupid as this.
I'm not going to lie. I'm sorry that I hurt you, but I'm NOT sorry for speaking my mind and telling the truth.

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I don't think you understood me. I don't have a problem with your beliefs. I had a problem with the "you people sicken me" statement. So please reread my comment before you start accusing me of misjudging you like that.

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I changed the statement.
I'm sorry I accused you of misjudging me.
I was WRONG.
Okay?
And you can slam me in your journal all you want.
I. Don't. Care.

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The journal entry was just me venting. If I wanted to slam you, I wouldn't do it in my fucking journal. I don't want to slam you. Don't act like I want to. Don't act like I'm enjoying this, and don't say you don't care. I know you do, otherwise you wouldn't keep commenting to me.
Look, lets just move past this. Christ.

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I appologized. I fixed the post. I'm trying to move past it. Of course I care. And I know that you have more complicated things going on in your life right now than this stupid thing.

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Okay. I never wanted to make things sour between us, but at the same time I figured that if I had a problem with you I should go to you about it. Honestly, I'm not mad right now. I still love you. That never changed.

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I didn't want to either, and I know that you don't. And I honestly feel HORRIBLE about this whole thing because I should be here to comfort you right now instead of causing drama. & I do respect and appreciate the fact that you confronted me about this. I am glad that you're not mad, I'm not mad either. And again, I'm sorry. I still love you too.
So can we be okay now?

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Don't worry about me. I am fine, I promise.
Yeah, we're cool. I am sorry for hurting your feelings. That wasn't my intention at all.

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Okay :/ Just remember that I truly am here for you if you need me. & I know you will be okay because you have a strong heart.
I'm sorry too. I know what I said was wrong. I need to learn how to draw the line between standing up for what I believe in and forcing my beliefs on other people.
nice to hav you back :]

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Thank you.
Likewise ♥

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I'm going to have trouble phrasing this exactly how I want, but I'll try my hardest, huh? I don't really like PETA sometimes. I mean, it's one of those situations were the thought is in the right place but they go about it in ways that fall short in areas. Some of those reasons in the video just doesn't change my mind.
Like, meat makes you fat. While, yeah. If you eat a lot of it and don't work out. It's almost like they're stereotyping people, but that probably wasn't the point. And when aren't people trying to diet better? We all want to eat healthy, but it's not going to work for everyone.
Then the poop part just is really confusing. There's poop from animals in everything that we eat. Even salads, putter butter, bread, etc. That's why the FDA tries to regulate everything that gets sold as best it can. But since humans aren't perfect there'll be an outbreak of some kind, some where. To me it's like the creators didn't bother to bring up the point about action levels. Look it up sometime if you want, it's kind of interesting. Action levels are the amounts of feces, hair, etc. that can be allowed in food without causing any harm to the body.
Ever read the book The Jungle? Yeah, that's disturbing in more ways than just what the meat industry used to be. Of course that also took place many years ago, before the creation of all these regulations we have nowadays put into place. Things are definitely better than they were, but there'll always be those companies that slip under the radar.
I'm not going to try to argue with every point they make, but eh. If someone doesn't want to eat meat, they don't have to ya know. I don't feel PETA should try to scare people into not eating meat, just like I don't think the anti-drug people should scare others into not doing drugs. I'm one of those informal guys. Give people all the information you can, skip the scaring. It only angers/confuses/even humors people. =\

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oddly enough, i agree with you on PETA. sometimes i'm 100% right along with them, but other times i know they do go overboard. i agreed with what they were saying in this video, tho. i think it's important to remember that the people in this organization are [watch me stereotype >.<] fanatics. they feel EXTREMELY passionate about their cause, and go to great extents to get their point across.
i was very moved by this video, but posting has caused so many problems, both on and off GJ, I'm wondering if I should have posted it in the first place. :/
Thank you for your comment. I truly appreciate you opinion.

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Yeah, PETA is pretty extreme, but hey. That's how they are. I just think they take things too far sometimes like they show pictures and clips of movies from like the 70's and 80's and, for the most part, things have changed a lot, thank goodness.

You know, if you want to post a video like this I don't think anything should stop you. If you agree with any points in the video, you have the right to voice 'em. Besides, arguments are what we humans need to do. Just think if everyone agreed the same on everything in the world. If that day ever comes, I know I would be deeply sadden.

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Yeah, that's good. I do respect the people in there, though, because they certainly do stand up for their beliefs. But like you said before, they shouldn't try to scare people into agreeing with them. Idk, maybe that's the only way they think they can get their point across.
Oh, I never responded before when you asked about The Jungle. No, I've never read it, but I learned about it in history class. Dear lord. Imagine how bad some people must have freaked out when they read this back in the twenties.
You know what? You're right. I have the right to argue. And if the day ever came where everyone agreed on everything, I would be saddened as well.
thanks :]

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